Brennan  0:00  

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Christi Dodge  0:17  

Welcome back to the Dodge Movie Podcast. This is episode 142. And we are going to be talking about City Slickers two the Legend of Curley’s Gold. Originally, we wanted to talk about City Slickers, because it had fun. We both had fond memories of it, but when we went to procure it, to watch it for this podcast, it is unavailable anywhere except to purchase and honestly sorry, Billy and company, I didn’t love it that much.

Mike Dodge  0:51  

Yeah, $15 is a lot for film that I probably won’t watch too many more times. 

Christi Dodge  0:56  

So we thought all right, we’ll pivot. Let’s watch City Slickers two, it’s available on Apple for only $3 to rent. So here we go. Let’s just skip into it. Ron Underwood did City Slickers one Paul Weiland did City Slickers two, and he brought us in 1980 Sevens. Leonard Part Six.

Mike Dodge  1:22  

That was Eddie Murphy?

Christi Dodge  1:24  

I don’t know, I thought it was Bill Cosby. Oh, yeah, that’s Yeah, yeah. Maid of Honor. And many Mr. Bean films and episodes.

Mike Dodge  1:35  

Okay, Mr. Bean that’s consistent.

Christi Dodge  1:39  

It still stars. Billy Crystal, Jack Palance. Daniel Stern, Jon Lovitz, Patricia wettig, and Jane Meadows plays the voice of Mitch’s mother. Okay, so we don’t ever see her on screen, but she comes through the phone.  The DP for this film is Adrian Biddle. He did in 1986 aliens and 90 ones Thelma and Louise. The writers for this film are Lowell Ganz and Babaloo Mandel.

Mike Dodge  2:11  

Very prolific writers. 

Christi Dodge  2:12  

Yes, in that era, we talked about them for a night shift, and they also did parenthood, and splash. And Billy is credited for some writing on City Slickers, too. So here’s the synopsis for the sequel to see the slickers is one year after their first adventure, Mitch Robins and his friends discover a treasure map that belonged to their late trail guide Curley, and they set out to discover its secrets.

Mike Dodge  2:42  

And so as a producer, you’re saying, Boy, that pellets guy was quite the big hit, but we kill them off before we knew the movie would be that big. What do we do to bring him back? And so you talk to your friends who work in the soap business? And they tell you you know, what we always do is the twin. Nobody questions the twin.

Christi Dodge  3:01  

If it works for them, it’ll work for us. Yeah, yeah. So this movie only has one tagline? 

Mike Dodge  3:07  

Only one. 

Christi Dodge  3:07  

Okay, they’re back in the saddle.

Mike Dodge  3:11  

Doesn’t tell me much at all about the film, but okay. Okay.

Christi Dodge  3:16  

So did you notice that a cast member from the first movie was not listed? When I read them for the second movie?

Mike Dodge  3:26  

Yeah, there was the one guy that went on the trip with him that didn’t show up the second time. I forget the actor’s name. Do you want me to say that on air?

Christi Dodge  3:35  

So Bruno Kirby did not return to reprise his role of Ed from the original film because he is highly allergic to horses. And he required constant allergy treatments to do this do do his scenes for the first movie. So he said that they had air purifiers and he was doing steroids and like everything they could to get him through the first film. So I think when the second one came around, he was like, Thanks, but no.

Mike Dodge  4:05  

How was he with cows? I’m sorry, that sounds like a stereotypical producer joke. What’s his position on goats?

Christi Dodge  4:15  

I guess Billy Crystal clashed with Paul Weiland in the making of this film. So that made for contentious set. This film just struggled. In doing some research, I found a quote from Roger Ebert that kind of I think explains pretty well, what’s going on. So Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun Times wrote city slickers to subtitled Legend of curlies gold makes the mistake of thinking that we care more about the gold than about the City Slickers. Like too many sequels and is forgotten what the first film was really about. City Slickers two is about the MacGuffin, instead of the characters.

Mike Dodge  4:59  

I think It’s perfectly said, I don’t always agree with Ebert. But that time I think he captured it perfectly. Because the goal should be the MacGuffin, right, the premise of the first film the premise, but the payoff, I should say, is you take these fish out of water characters, and by plopping them into this different environment, they discover who they are, and they grow. Right. And I don’t think in this film, the characters grow.

Christi Dodge  5:28  

Yeah, also in doing research for it, and learning some different things about the actors, I have a theory. And so here’s my theory. So Billy’s horse that he wrote in the first one, he also wrote in the second one, and when the filming of The first one was completed, his agent bottom and the horse’s name was BeechNut. And he bought in beechina. And Billy kept that horse until he died at 27. Daniel Stern, after making the first one also bought a cattle ranch that he still owns, at least at the time of the video or an article I read, he still owned it, and he had 70 head of cattle. 

So I think that two things were going on. I think the actors enjoyed the process, they probably enjoyed the location, Billy talks about seeing Jack Palance and Shane, and it was it made such an impact on him. So I think they fell in love with the genre, they fell in love with the, you know, kind of like just each other and filming. And they were probably trying to recapture that. I mean, if if he enjoyed the horse and kept it, I think, you know, it’s like, Oh, I get to go hang out with my horse and play cowboy for three months, sign me up.

Mike Dodge  6:47  

Two words, Ocean’s 12.

Christi Dodge  6:51  

I just wonder if that’s what was going on? Absolutely.

Mike Dodge  6:54  

And I heard an actor. And I wish I can remember who because I want to give them credit. But they said the movies that were filming was like a party, and it was the best experience ever, weren’t the best films they were in.

Christi Dodge  7:13  

Interesting.

Mike Dodge  7:14  

I think what you’re getting at is hanging out with your friends, is fun, but it’s maybe something different than making a good film. And that’s weird to say, as we’re in pre production for making a film with our friends. But I think it’s not that you’re hanging out with friends is the problem. But if you’re maybe focus is more on that enjoyment, then the material, right you can sell have a fantastic time, but maybe aren’t going to make the best film. Because the focus is is it becomes in some sense, like a home video to capture you hanging out with your friends. Right? 

And in this case, I think that Ebert quote, is pretty accurate. And that maybe is just because they were enjoying recreating the experience of the first one. But the first one, you know, you could even argue if you need tension to be creative, perhaps portal Bruna Kirby’s allergic reaction was the case. I mean, just talking out loud here. But is it as simple as everybody knew that Bruno is suffering so like we need to be on the top of our game as few takes as possible to try to get Bruno through this. And then the second time around, they’re like, Hey, we love this right? We own this horse, these horses and we’re hanging out and having a gale time and then you know, you lose your your focus.

Christi Dodge  8:42  

Why don’t you kick us off with your pickup line and then we will talk about the cinematography and the writing of this film. Hi, curly.

Mike Dodge  8:50  

Who says that? Mitch says that?

Christi Dodge  8:53  

Wait, I thought the first scene was him and his wife in bed.

Mike Dodge  8:58  

I don’t have to tell you I have written down Hi curly.

Christi Dodge  9:01  

But you don’t you don’t remember the first thing.

Mike Dodge  9:03  

I didn’t remember cancer. There is a very long opening credit with animated like, a horse and cowboy and stuff. So I’m not remembering exactly what the first scene was. 

Christi Dodge  9:15  

Well, that tells you all you need to know if we don’t even remember this. And I think we watched it like a week ago. Okay, there is a shot of Mitch on a white weight of a white horse running and Mitch is following it. And it’s beautiful. I wrote down.

Mike Dodge  9:30  

Right. Yeah, that’s the opening scene. And he the horse takes him to like a grave and he sees clearly there and he says right?

Christi Dodge  9:38  

Yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay, so when the movie starts, Mitch seems to be perfectly fine. His friend Phil is working at the radio station. 

Mike Dodge  9:48  

Yeah, their radio station.

Christi Dodge  9:50  

And but Phil isn’t doing so well. In fact, he we get an exposition that Mitch is gonna have to fire him probably. And he doesn’t want to.

Mike Dodge  9:59  

Because Phil has been divorced from our lien. So I found in the trivia for I think it was the first one that reminded me. Apparently, Phil gets together with Helen Slater in the first film, which is a bit about kicking his coverage to be quite honest. And so I don’t know if he was already separated from Arlene at that point. She maybe didn’t appreciate him getting together with Helen Slater. But yeah, Phil is not doing well at his job or in his life. So that sets up the awkwardness of Mitch having to fire his good friend who needs this job more than any.

Christi Dodge  10:36  

So they do the sad gag, I felt like this was a common gag in like, I guess, the 80s and 90s, where the wife calls in and she’s going to talk sexy, and somehow crazy enough, it gets patched through. And he’s either he’s on speaker and the boss is there, or in this case, there’s a whole conference room full of people and like, we’re wives just like wild and they didn’t go hey, are you alone? 

Mike Dodge  11:07  

Right or Did Did, did Mitch, his secretary say, Oh, this sounds like Mitch his wife, not the investor. So hey, Mitch, I think this is your wife pick up the handset.

Christi Dodge  11:19  

Yeah, so it, it felt a little, really guys? 

Mike Dodge  11:23  

Well, I’ll just be honest, that’s like they weren’t trying that hard. Yeah, that joke is is just not I think Bob blue could do better. 

Christi Dodge  11:32  

But also, I guess, yeah, the Ganz and Bobaloo. Was this not as much of a thing? I don’t know, is it did it get played out? And so it’s not their fault? They were the ones that originated it. Like to go back in time? I can’t remember. Sure. You know, I don’t know it just having watched this movie. today. It was just like it felt played out. Yeah. Okay, so the guys find a map inherently in Curley’s hat, and they decide they’re gonna go back and relive the joys of the cattle ranch, you know, like the spirit of adventure. And they are going to go find the gold fill, or and match or completely, they go to the library, for some reason can’t remember probably like research to figure out why they’re doing some sort of research and all that a train robbery.

Mike Dodge  12:25  

I believe, yeah, that was referenced in this. This is another thing that really irritated me, is Mitch and Phil are incapable of speaking even at a regular tone in a library. They’re just shouting each other constantly. And there’s this gag where this guy keeps shushing them. And as adults, maybe the first time you do it, but then you’re like, Okay, we didn’t need to go outside, if we want to yell at each other. Or we can just lower our volume like a normal person, there is no explanation for why they were being idiots.

Christi Dodge  12:59  

Yes. And then it’s being you idiot. When they get out there. Phil is telling the guys at I guess like a trading post. It’s like this place where they’re buying supplies and renting burros. 

Mike Dodge  13:14  

Yes. And I refer to my notes as the burro rental.

Christi Dodge  13:19  

And so Phil comes out. And he’s obviously has just told this man, who kind of has all of the classic markings of this is going to be a bad guy. Sure, you know, kind of like just visually, you know, I tip my hat to, to costume and makeup and stuff, because we just get a vibe that maybe these people aren’t on the up and up. And so Mitch completely loses his mind, because he’s just like, What are you doing, Phil? Don’t tell everybody what we’re doing.

Mike Dodge  13:48  

I would say though, even if the guy look trustworthy, if you’re gonna map to $20 million, you don’t share that info with anyone. I mean, this is this is goes beyond just like, okay, he’s, he’s a bit of a schmuck. This is I mean, that’s ludicrous. So this, I think, really, it comes back to what Ebert was saying is, I feel like plot like of the, oh, there’s gold, and they do a thing. And then they get the reveal that that was fine. Very straightforward. It’s like the lost sight of the characters. And so was it a case of we’re going to put some gags together, string some gags together and call it a joke. I just like, really, the characters, in my opinion, went completely missing in this.

Christi Dodge  14:35  

Until the very end, but was this a copy? I believe this was a copy of the first one having not seen it in like 30 years. I can’t tell you exactly. But the part at the end where Daniel Stern, no, Jon Lovitz, his character jumps in front of a bullet basically for his brother Mitch, was it Yeah, It was love. It’s not starring.

Mike Dodge  15:01  

Yeah, love it. Glenn, I think is his character’s name. 

Christi Dodge  15:04  

So there’s this moment where he’s like, You saved my life. He was like, Yeah, but it was faithful. He was, but you didn’t know that at the time. There is this moment that like, oh, the brothers really care for one another. Like, it was like at the very end, they were trying to have this moment. But now as I was processing this thought I was wondering, did that happen in the first one, and they were just reviving an old? An old storyline?

Mike Dodge  15:27  

Yeah, that’s a good question. I don’t think love it. His character was in the first one. I thought that he basically replaced Bruno Kirby. But I don’t feel like it was set up that diving for the bullet to be a natural consequence of the love its character again, this I just felt like it was more a string of bits, because he was so obnoxiously useless, and a pain in the butt and all this stuff and even have the the gag about like, oh, no, like, it’s not who could it be? And then tell me it’s not my brother or something like that. And he walks in the room. Hey, hello, match. So he’s very much was set up to be kind of that character. 

So that’s where to me. I felt like, yeah, it was kind of a touching moment, but it didn’t follow naturally, from my perspective. And now that I think about it, too, there’s like the snake bite on the butt. So cash, more skits, right. And I would love to talk to the writers, because I know they’re much more talented very fine. So you know, was it a case of you didn’t have a lot of time? 

Christi Dodge  16:36  

We, like I said, I mentioned, Billy had issues with the director. So yeah, I yeah, there’s a lot going on here. 

Mike Dodge  16:44  

But it’s interesting when we talk about them enjoying the first one so much that we’ve heard this from, you know, many people before, you really can’t tell while filming it, what it’s going to be like, is it going to be good or not? Right? And it’s hard to make a fantastic film. It’s, it’s, you know, you work hard, and you get a good film most of the time. Like, you know, city slickers, in some sense, was, was a lightning in a bottle. Right? So it’s hard to follow that.

Christi Dodge  17:11  

Absolutely. And I think there was a lot of excitement after City Slickers. You know, they’re, they were nominated for a ton of awards. And I have a funny award story later when I list through the awards that this one got, and you know, Jack Palance, got on the stage of the Academy Awards, and he did that one arm push up, and then like his career went, you know, like he was the IT guy. Yeah. Wow.

Mike Dodge  17:39  

Yeah, a meme.

Christi Dodge  17:41  

Exactly. Still probably is. We should try to revive it. Anyway, when Curley comes out of the grave, I noticed that it was a jumpscare. So it was kind of an editing choice. But is there anything else in cinematography and writing that you’d like to talk about first?

Mike Dodge  17:57  

Well, there were a couple of montages. We like to talk about those. There’s a slow motion horse Chase montage. But my favorite is the following the map montage, because it reminds me of the classic gag of traveling by map, which our friend Dustin brought up from the Muppet Movie, but is most famous, I think, for Indiana Jones. Right? 

So maps are a big deal. There is a crane shot in that library, this big open space, they obviously brought a crane in which is from a production standpoint, boy must have had been a lot of work. Are they on the second floor, like a balcony could have been I felt like we saw the camera move and FYI, green, okay. But amazingly, for a film, which is kind of light hearted. There’s a reverse Scorsese on Mitch right before the stampede, you don’t see that a whole lot, but I think almost never in a comedy. So that was interesting.

Christi Dodge  18:53  

Do you want to I don’t know if everybody knows what that means. 

Mike Dodge  18:56  

So it’s where you coordinate, you zoom in the opposite direction of the camera movement. So the idea is that the actor stays of a constant size in the frame. But then the background moves drastically because of the change in the zoom level.

Christi Dodge  19:15  

It is very hard too.

Mike Dodge  19:17  

It is really hard to get right.

Christi Dodge  19:19  

I remember in film school, we were so excited right after we learned it and we were given an assignment. I think maybe they specifically told us to try it. Because at the same time you’re moving the camera, which is very hard to do. Unless you probably have like dolly tracks, quite honestly.

Mike Dodge  19:36  

Yeah, dolly tracks and with at least one if not two skill grips on the bar, so that they can move it at a consistent smooth pace

Christi Dodge  19:45  

Or a Trolley is what they call it, which at the film department had one and students would rent them out. It’s this huge platform with these giant like tight fit It tires, and it’s heavy. And we would, we would each rented out once like each group, you would rent it out once. And then it was such a pain in the neck. Buttocks took us to get to and from and certain students needed to have the right kind of car to lift it up. And it’s heavy on purpose because it needs to create a smooth trend, you do it once you would try your shot, it would probably almost never work. 

Or you would run out of time because it’s the shot that you got to get all your coverage. And then when you don’t have your cut, you know, once you have everything done, then you’re like, oh, let’s try that reverse Scorsese shot. But you always ran out of time for that. So like I said, You rented it once, and then you went never again.

Mike Dodge  20:50  

Right? And to make it worse, your grips have to move the dolly. Yes, at the same time. Your AC has to zoom. Yeah. And depending on the lens will also have to focus Yeah, zooming.

Christi Dodge  21:07  

The other thing you brought up, we probably didn’t have enough people. Because we were usually groups of like four. And so you have a camera person, a sound person, sometimes one of those four was your actor, right? So there’s one person left, maybe that can move that damn cart. And it like I said it was heavy. And it’s heavy to begin with. But then you put a student and a tripod and a camera on it. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, you’re giving me flashbacks.

Mike Dodge  21:37  

So this is in the category of why do you see 200 names at the end of it? Because for stuff like this, and then I mentioned earlier, the crane in the library. Yeah, that would have been there would have been a couple of grips, at least on the crane, in addition to all the camera crew, and it’s just it’s surprising how these things that we take for granted as a viewer add up in terms of time and people and money. Which is again, why producers probably are all bald with graying hair and high blood pressure, because all this stuff costs and every time somebody comes up with a brilliant idea, but as I like to say it gets a visit from the good idea fairy, then the producer just hears dollars. Right. 

So but in this case, you know, it is a very cool shot. And so the cinematographer for this film, definitely, you know, took it serious and tried to do some neat stuff. Right? There’s some kind of like stunt work but action work with the little mining cart, right? There is outside where they do some some clever shots where, you know, you move the camera and it makes a rock formation look like a thing. So definitely I feel like you know, the camera department did a good job.

Christi Dodge  22:58  

Yes, yes, very much. So. Are you ready to move into costume lead? Okay, so you made note of and I do you want to talk about this bit of trivia, you can go ahead. Okay, so Billy Crystal in his character, Mitch wears a Mets hat throughout the film, but in reality crystal is a diehard Yankees fan. And is it because he doesn’t like Mitch? Is it because he doesn’t want to think that he is at all like Mitch, why would you put your team’s hat on? 

Mike Dodge  23:32  

I believe that it was because the Mets helped with a charity. And he was paying them back. Oh, did you read that? What charity I read that somewhere? There was a charity of some sort hit presumably that he was associated with and the Mets had helped out so

Christi Dodge  23:48  

So he kind of had to 

Mike Dodge  23:49  

Well, I don’t know. He was trying to be a mench.

Christi Dodge  23:53  

I did love the scenery and a little bit later I’ll talk about where it was filmed and even I said even the stirring score at the end when they find the goal doesn’t save this ending. Because it had this beautiful like violins like whoa you know, like you’re supposed to get on in the swing. How about some head trauma? Do we have any head trauma? 

Mike Dodge  24:15  

We do have a little bit of head trauma. Glenn and Mitch drop Phil after he asked them to suck the rattlesnake poison out of his butt. That’s classic bit. Mitch crashes his Minecart. Gotta assume there’s some head trauma there. I believe he goes flying out of it. And the bad guys get lots and lots of head trauma in the fight with the boys.

Christi Dodge  24:37  

Oh, okay. And how about a smoochy?

Mike Dodge  24:40  

Smoochy smoochy smoochy! We did have a smoochy Barbara kisses Mitch in bed on the morning of his birthday.

Christi Dodge  24:47  

Ah, that’s sweet. Yeah. And driving review?

Mike Dodge  24:52  

Not a whole lot cars are mostly horses in this film, but it looks like it’s a 93 Jeep Cherokee that Mitch drives which maybe is reasonable for that era in a suburb. I assumed it was New Jersey and shows the radio station being in New York City. But he obviously lives in a suburb but it could have been maybe like what Long Island? I don’t know. I don’t really didn’t really. However, they told us the name. And there’s a train commute. So maybe people who are familiar with the New York area could tell me where that is. And a wagon was harmed in the making of this film. That wagon did not survive the fall off the cliff. And I always think when when they do that in the movie, who cleans up the wreck at the bottom, because it can’t just go away?

Christi Dodge  25:37  

When that way and went off, I thought the exact same thing, because I know they’re in this beautiful, like, either state or federal park, right? And I was like, I’m pretty sure you can’t just leave the wagon bits. So yeah, laying down there, holy cow, or do you have to pay a huge sum? I guess? I don’t know.

Mike Dodge  25:54  

So I think the answer is a bunch of PAs, they send burrows down to the bottom of the canyon, and they got to figure out what to do with it.

Christi Dodge  26:02  

I think you’re right. All right. Shall we go to the numbers? 

Mike Dodge  26:04  

Let’s go to the numbers. 

Christi Dodge  26:05  

All right, before we go to our regular numbers, I just want to say that a million dollars in gold in 1908 would have been worth approximately eight tene million 541,000 in 1994. And today, it would be more like $63 million 

Mike Dodge  26:30  

Wowzers. 

Christi Dodge  26:31  

And then, this film was released theatrically on the same day as Speed in 1994. And as Grant who played Lois in this film, was also in Speed as Helen.

Mike Dodge  26:43  

She did a lot of work that day doing press for both films.

Christi Dodge  26:46  

He did the budget for this film I saw let’s see, it was 40 million for this one. Originally City Slickers. The budget was 26 million. And it brought in 124 million. So you can see why, you know, a 90 day for a film that did that. Well, they will do it again. Sadly, they did not get their same return because their 40 million only brought in 43 million. Yeah. So with marketing that was probably considered a loss cannot be winners. It gets a 5.6 out of 10. on IMDb Rotten Tomatoes, it’s very rotten 15%. And as with audiences, they were a little more generous, but didn’t even get it up over that fresh threshold is 31%. It’s just under two hours at an hour and 56 minutes. It’s really PG 13. And it is listed as a comedy Western. 

So Jack Palance infamously won the Oscar as we mentioned before, for best supporting role, and Billy won an American Comedy Award. Then Jack won the Golden Globe and Billy was up for Best Actor. Billy told this sweet story of they’re sitting at the Golden Globes and Jack wins and he goes up on stage and he gives his speech and he said it was pretty short. The Golden Globe, girl, you know, she suppose she brings on the award and she’s supposed to usher them back to the press room so they can talk to the foreign press. Jack comes back down and sits next to Billy and Billy says no, Jack, you have to go. You have to go to the press room. And he says eff the Foreign Press. He goes I want to watch you when you’re golden glow. 

Oh, isn’t that sweet? That is so next I don’t know if it’s the exact next award but but they come around to the best actor and and the Best Actor for The Golden Globes for the Best Actor goes to Morgan Freeman. And Jack gets up and Billy goes Jack Where you going and goes, I gotta go to the press room. But this film did not do so well. Billy did win an award. He won the Razzie for the worst sequel. And the Stingers bad movie awards awarded it the worst sequel. So this one didn’t do as well as the first right. I was gonna mention the filming locations that took place in Arches National Park, which is beautiful. 

I can attest. It was filmed in Moab and Goblin Valley State Park in Utah. It was also a scene was in New York City less Oh, Las Vegas, but I realized, I don’t think we saw them. Like in Las Vegas. I think we saw stock footage of right casinos and then you see Billy, he’s on the phone with his wife. You think he’s going to be in Las Vegas, but then they pan it’s a shot from down below. So all you see is him on the phone and you see the sky and then the camera comes up to his eye level. And you see he’s in the middle of like Moab or arches or something? 

Right. So I don’t know if they really went to Vegas, or just maybe they went to Vegas, a second unit went to Vegas to get those shots at the casinos. And they didn’t use stock footage. Yeah, perhaps. Right. Yeah. So let’s see, I think I covered everything on my notes. I would love if some of our listeners have done this. And it’s really helped our podcast. If you like what you’ve been listening to, we are nearing three years doing this. 

We’ve done 142 episodes, we’re getting close to that 150 Mark, I would love it. If you would go on whatever listening platform that you happen to listen to us on and leave us a review. A five star review would be great, because that will help us we are hitting some of the charts in Great Britain and Kuwait of all places and Israel and Japan, we’ve been doing pretty good. So we are super excited that you’re listening.

Mike Dodge  30:59  

Who knew that the Kuwaitis were such fine listeners of our podcasts about moving?

Christi Dodge  31:05  

I know, we’ve been like number 15 on their charts for many weeks. So thank you to everybody. 

Mike Dodge  31:10  

Yes, thank you to our foreign listeners, as well as those in the US. It’s amazing when we stop and think about that we’re closing in on 150 episodes. Right? And the great thing, in my opinion is, there’s a bunch of people who keep making movies, so there’s always more to talk about. 

Christi Dodge  31:29  

I know I love it. I love it. We’re never gonna run out of movies. All right, thank you everybody. And never forget,

Mike Dodge  31:34  

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Brennan  31:37  

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