Christi Dodge  0:00  

Hey everyone, we are kicking off a new month and we want to announce the winner for last month. The winner for August is superfan. Ernie, congratulations Ernie, you’ll get to choose one of our films for next year. Remember, if you want to participate in this contest, simply email your guests to Christi@Dodgemediaproductions.com. Check out the show notes for this exact email, and a link where you can submit your guesses throughout the month you may get the theme as many times as you want. And winners receive a shout out in the episode a shout out on our social media your name posted on the website with the number of times you’ve won. 

At the end of the year, we will throw everyone who guessed into a hopper and pick one and one person will win $100 amazon gift card. So congratulations Ernie, you have a chance at winning that gift card. Be thinking of your movie.

Brennan  0:56  

You’re listening to Dodge Movie Podcast. Your hosts are Christi and Mike Dodge the founders of Dodge Media Productions. We produce films and podcasts. So this is a podcast about films. Join them as they share their passion for filmmaking.

Christi Dodge  1:13  

Welcome back, everybody to the Dodge Movie Podcast. This is episode 133. And before we start talking about the 1999 Office Space film, I would like to let everybody know that we are starting to plan for 2020. And that means that this is your window to make suggestions about things you like that we do. You can tell us things you don’t like doesn’t mean I’m gonna stop doing it. But I might.

Mike Dodge  1:44  

I probably won’t. 

Christi Dodge  1:45  

But you know, but this is your chance. We’re open for suggestions. And so you can suggest movies you can suggest themes you can suggest. Don’t ever do a contest again. I will take that one because I’m not going to.

 Maybe more cowbell. 

Yeah, sure. More cowbell you say?

Mike Dodge  2:07  

Awesome. It sounds like the luge at the Winter Olympics.

Christi Dodge  2:11  

So write me at Christi@dodgemediaproductions.com. Or you can go on any of our social media pages facebook, instagram for Dodge Media Productions and let me know. I’m open. I’m all ears. See let’s talk about this Mike Judge film he directed this film and Beavis and Butthead King of the Hill in Silicon Valley. He also wrote this it stars the stars Ron Livingston, Jennifer Aniston, David Herman J. Detrich Bader, Steven Root, Gary Cole and Richard Riehle. The DP for this film is Tim Suhrstedt. He also who did one of my faves in 1988, Mystic Pizza, our formally discussed 89 Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure. As well as the 2006 Idiocracy.

Mike Dodge  3:04  

So He worked with Judge on Idiocracy. 

Christi Dodge  3:08  

It is a 20th Century Fox film. And the synopsis for this film is three company workers who hate their job decide to rebel against their greedy boss. I wouldn’t say greedy, he’s just a jerk. Well, I mean, he gets no because he doesn’t pay them well and wants them to work overtime.

Mike Dodge  3:25  

Right and it benefits him I think they establish in dialogue Peter establishes that Lumberg gets a big bonus and they get nothing. 

Christi Dodge  3:33  

Okay, tagline. Work sucks. Everybody’s gonna agree with that. I don’t know if it tells us a lot about the film, but okay.

But I think in the vein of the film, just like let’s let’s not be cute. Sure. It just works. 

Mike Dodge  3:51  

I like it. Yeah.

Christi Dodge  3:52  

Okay, what is the pickup line for this film?

Mike Dodge  3:56  

Okay, Michael Bolton is singing along to a rap song. And it’s I got my pistol Pawn cocked. I had to look up the lyrics to the song because it makes no sense. Pistol we know pistol, pawn as in pawnshop or the piece in chess cocked. I don’t know what that those three words together mean, but that’s what it is. 

Christi Dodge  4:21  

Okay, for the cinematography for this film. Now it was Stephen Root was on Rich Eisen show and he said it because Rich ask him Did you guys know you’re making like this cult classic and which is a silly question because I don’t think anybody knows know that. It’s something’s going to be a cult classic. It’s like going viral. You can’t predict that. And Steven said, No, we just all thought we were making like a nice little B movie. Right? And so to me, it does have kind of that in the I wouldn’t say be movie. Oh, like an indie vibe to it. But it kind of works because it’s not. If you did this film with a high def camera and Like, you know, like it was sparkly and shiny and well lit.

Mike Dodge  5:04  

I’m thinking like, the this Social whatever the Fincher film about Facebook. Social Network. 

Christi Dodge  5:13  

Even that even seems dark. What I’m saying is, this film kind of needs to have some grain because you don’t want it to look polished because their life is not polished.

Mike Dodge  5:24  

And especially when they’re in the offices of Initech. You want the lighting to be horrible, because fluorescent lighting is by its very definition, horrible, right?

Christi Dodge  5:33  

Oh, Joe Versus the Volcano, right? That horrible life pretty much life out of you. Yeah. So I felt like the cinematography worked. And and like even Livingston’s apartment, looks like they just rented you know, kind of like a hotel where we’re a tiny little apartment. But it works because they, they’re making just enough to have a decent apartment, but not that much more that he has, like, really nice furniture.

Mike Dodge  6:04  

One thing that maybe is a little bit more indie, but more maybe even student film me they did, oh, one thing a couple of times. And I made a note of the first time when Peters coming to work, and he gets shocked by the door handle. When he goes to reach out, they cut to a shot of his hand reaching in, and it’s dirty with the door handle that, how do they get the camera there. So they had to basically take that door handle or a matching one, and some PA is holding it, right? And so that to me is so maybe easy, that’s not indie, because they had the extra production of taking the door handle and holding it. 

But then that feels to me very much like somebody who doesn’t have a lot of resources. So they’re trying to make the film visually interesting. And that’s the thing that they could do. Whereas maybe if you had a ton of money, you’d be then like, Okay, so we’re gonna have a crane shot, and then we’ll digitally morph it into the steadicam. And have him walking through the hallway, we’ll do a walk and talk and they move in. They’re like, No, we can’t afford that. So they’re doing something different. I thought that was interesting.

Christi Dodge  7:14  

Yeah, this was filmed in Austin, Texas. I don’t know if they ever say where this is supposed to be. But you definitely get the heat. Like, I just feel like you can feel how hot this place is. And that it’s just this industrial park.

Mike Dodge  7:29  

Yeah, it’s pretty miserable. If I remember correctly from the trivia from one of the I think the location they use for the tchotchkes which is in a real restaurant, I don’t think it’s in this tech like Park, and where the restaurants are apparently in this cluster in the middle. And so all of these drones from Initech and into trode. And in a whatever. I’ll go to there for lunch. And as I Okay, I totally remember places like that in Silicon Valley. Yeah. All right. So I think it captured that well,

Christi Dodge  8:03  

Yeah, very much so. So the classic I mean, if you haven’t seen this movie yet, what rock are you living under? So we’ve got the classic TPS report that two different bosses come by and ask Peter for. And even though he says, Yep, got it, I’m gonna do it. They they keep almost like your mom. They keep harping on you.

Mike Dodge  8:28  

They are brow beating him. Yeah. And I think that all by itself. Yeah, the TPS thing describes what it’s like to work in corporate America, which is why I am stunned that more people don’t burn the building down.

Christi Dodge  8:46  

They don’t do it. And then the smarmy lady who comes by

Mike Dodge  8:54  

“Somebody’s having a case of the Mondays” So yes, you’ve also encountered that person and you’re not allowed to punch them as much as they deserve it.

Christi Dodge  9:03  

I have to say I felt bad that I picked this because this when this movie came out, oh, I guess we hadn’t met yet. Oh, no, we had probably met but weren’t married. 93 Sure. So because I remember watching this movie with you back then. And you loved this movie, because I think you so resonated with it. Oh, so now 30 years later, though, unfortunately, this movie kind of bummed out right after we watched it.

Mike Dodge  9:28  

Yeah, it’s really depressing because it’s so accurate. What a waste of a life to work in that environment. It’s useless.

Christi Dodge  9:36  

Well, I mean, it afforded us a good life.

Mike Dodge  9:39  

I suppose. But it shows how poor soul Yeah, well, yeah. By almost the definition of soul crushing, right? Yeah. And then they show the the actor I think his name is Tom, played by Richard real with the the jump to conclusions Mac guy, and he’s paranoid about getting laid off again. Very accurate.

Christi Dodge  10:02  

I know when he said that I was like, oh my god. I think I’ve heard Mike say that. 

Mike Dodge  10:06  

Oh, yeah, this is I mean, it was a little it was a little too close to home. Yeah, you could tell the judge had worked in in the environment because he got it perfect.

Christi Dodge  10:15  

He said that he worked with a guy who is always complaining about if they move my desk one more time, I’m gonna quit. Right. And it’s funny because you work with somebody right now that kind of has that same kind of energy like they do this one more time.

Mike Dodge  10:31  

Right? Well, it’s funny that you mentioned Milton, because the reason or the one of the reasons why I lost my mind when I saw this film, is I worked with a guy who has told they can listen to my radio at a reasonable volume. So I’m just going to name names Irving Beiner. Love you, buddy. But I hated this damn radio. He had the radio. This is before iPods and all that, but we still had earbuds. They were wired. Yeah. And he refused to plug them in. He listened to it. And they would tell him it has to be at a low volume. And somehow it kept getting louder and louder all day long. Until the whole flippin office was listening to his stupid like, whatever.

He was listening to talk radio, and then somebody would tell him, You got to turn it down. I was like, Oh my gosh, when I saw that, Milton, I’m like, I worked with that guy. Yeah. Alright, so brief digression. Herb had a couple of fun things, though. Again, I’m going to hand out a couple of good stories. Right. So Irving was a Jewish guy. Irving Binder, maybe didn’t know from the name, lived in LA at a tabernacle, that, as you may recall, in Jewish culture, a Bar Mitzvah is a big deal. They go all out. And so he was talking about how for someone’s Bar Mitzvah, they had hired this local Jewish comedian. He was on television. He had a TV show now. So they went to see the TV show.

He described this character and his dumb buddy got lost in a parking structure. He was really amazed that they could bring cars onto the set. He’s described this that was Jerry Seinfeld. His tabernacle hired Jerry Seinfeld for somebody’s Bar Mitzvah me, which is amazing. But probably my favorite urban grinder story. The last person to the staff meeting every week had to bring pastries, he brought bagels, we’re sitting there and I say bagels are proof that the Jews are God’s chosen people. And without missing a beat, Herb says and gefilte fish is proof we’re not. So he had a great sense of humor. It was just that damn radio.

Christi Dodge  12:40  

Yeah. Was he listening to Jerry Seinfeld? On the radio?

Mike Dodge  12:44  

No, because I wouldn’t have minded that would have been hilarious. You mentioned that eight hours a day of Seinfeld. Standup I think it was a great way to set a tone in our workplace. 

Christi Dodge  12:52  

Right? I bet you can attribute or can relate to the daily stand ups when they would have that in the movie. Everybody just looked so bored out of their mind.

Mike Dodge  13:04  

Right. And and as I was telling someone else recently, the thing with a cake that happened to me all the time. I did not get a piece of cake. You didn’t get a piece of cake of all people in the office. I love cake. It’s my jam. Yeah. Yeah. And so when they had that scene, I was like, Yeah, I’ve been that guy. 

Christi Dodge  13:21  

You were poor Milton?

Mike Dodge  13:23  

I have had some Milton moments. That is true.

Christi Dodge  13:26  

I thought it was me and I forgot this part. Gary Cole’s character. Just to tweak Milton because I was like, all the times I’ve ever watched this is Gary Cole just unaware. Oh, no. is well, I shouldn’t say Gary. Cool. Let me see. Lumbergh Well, is he on aware that he’s being a jerk? Nope, nope. And when he steals Milton’s redline, I’m like, oh, no, he’s doing this to make him crazy.

Mike Dodge  13:53  

And the moving the cubicle thing. Yeah, I’ve also worked with people like that, at that level. So again, it is a testament to human beings that they haven’t shot and killed more but vice presidents that kind of behavior.

Christi Dodge  14:08  

People are kind of very nice. I loved the opening scene, because you know, we talk about this a lot like kind of introducing us and so we see Ron Livingston and or I should say, events in his car and just the start and stop and it’s very jerky and it shows his feet on the pedals So that gets us if we didn’t already notice the the thing starting you know the car starting and stopping we see that his fee and and then he changes into the other lane because it’s going faster and then the lane he was in starts going faster. And so it changes back and then you know, it’s just, it’s horrible. And it just got me into that place. Like this is why I don’t go on the 217 because it makes me crazy to sit in traffic.

Mike Dodge  14:57  

So everybody who hates traffic next time you see a politician kick him in the nuts because they’re the reason for it. But yeah. Commute traffic. Imagine starting your day at Initech with that commute. 

Christi Dodge  15:11  

And then we see Steven Root. He’s at the bus stop, which is I mean, worse than traffic is happening to ride. Yeah, man. And then Gary Cole just drives in in his Porsche parks in the front row. And it goes in and you see Peter Gibbons. I thought it was funny, because these big parks, they sometimes try to put green spaces in it, but it was this big divot, like this big dip. And so your parks so far out that you if you could walk around the cement, I’m sure but it’s just so hot, you can’t get inside the building as fast as possible. So you walk down into this kind of like almost like a gully or something. I don’t know what you call it and then backup and then to make things worse, you’re not even at your desk.

 And you mentioned this previous you go to open the front door. Yeah. And you can tell he’s been zapped by this static electricity so many times, right, that he’s trying to like, punch it almost to try to just reduce Sure. Yeah, this charge. And then it gets him anyway.

Mike Dodge  16:20  

Yeah. So the dip, I would call that a moat. And I believe that they put those in place to make it harder for disgruntled employees to drive truck bombs into the building.

Christi Dodge  16:32  

I also appreciate it in that opening scene they did as he walks into his cubicle. We’re now overhead almost. 

Mike Dodge  16:39  

Yeah, that was great filmmaking because the show don’t tell. He could have dialogue and say my cubicle so small that I blah, blah, blah. Not as good as showing it from above. That was a good yeah, good choice.

Christi Dodge  16:52  

That was I liked that. The other editing thing I liked that we mentioned, which isn’t practical, but it worked. Like it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. But it worked. Michael Bolton is getting ready to launch the bug that is going to make the millions. And for a split second. His desk basically becomes glass. And yeah, we see the bottom of the mouse and we’re basically on the audience’s under his desk looking up at him pressing the button and so through the desk, and then it actually cuts too because I was like, Oh, did he have a glass desk? No cuts to now above the desk. And it’s a regular solid desk and his mouse is there. So that was a cool shot. And they got away with it, I think because it was a cool shot because it didn’t make any sense why we would.

Mike Dodge  17:45  

How would we possibly see the mouse also, the computer that Peter uses, appears to be some weird hybrid of a Mac and a PC, which judge would know better? I think he just put it in to show the nonsense. But yeah, that was another case like with the doorknob, where I thought they did some clever stuff with cinematography, which to me felt like we don’t have money to burn on a Steadicam or a giant crane. So we’re gonna try to do some things practically to make the film a bit more interesting. 

Christi Dodge  18:17  

Let’s get creative. Do you know Mike judge’s history? Because if he worked in these office buildings, so he probably didn’t go to film school? 

Mike Dodge  18:26  

As far as I know, I don’t know.

Christi Dodge  18:27  

Maybe just hitching his wagon to that DP, Tim?

Well, certainly if you look at Beavis and Butthead, right, that’s not necessarily it’s particularly limited. Yeah, it’s pretty primitive. So yeah, and he may just had like a dumb buddy that drew that for him. I don’t know.

So I kind of raced through my cinematography, writing editing, is there anything that you have that you want to bring up before we move on to our other?

Mike Dodge  18:51  

Well, for cinematography, I did make no we had two different montages. We had the Peter Gibbons taking back his life after he’s been hypnotized montage. And then what I call the Ocean’s 11 Montage as they’re attempting to rip off thing.

Christi Dodge  19:06  

You missed one. The bashing the printer, montage. Oh, is that okay? Yeah, maybe? Yeah, that’s totally a montage. Okay. Yeah, that’s again, a third one. In fact, printing, Ron Livingston said that as a PR for the film. They in like Boston or something in like a square, brought out a printer, let people bash it get there. And he said it got a little rough. It almost turned into like a riot. Because people just weren’t going at this piece of machinery with all of their work, anger.

Mike Dodge  19:42  

So during finals week at Harvey Mudd, there were quiet hours, you had to be completely quiet during certain periods of time to let people study and that of course built up some desire to be loud. So they had something called noisy minutes. I think it was 15 minutes in the middle of quiet hour. You get noisy minutes and it was game on. So Western which was the metal dorm. They would buy a car from the junkyard that didn’t run and have it towed. When car when you say metal dorm, are you saying like heavy metal. Okay, there was made a cinderblock, but that’s where all the metal heads live, including Richie strong who bought the speakers from the student body for parties just for his own room. 

He’s probably deaf by now. Anyway. Very good. Almost got me. So they would drag this this derelict car in there. And then for noisy minutes, I think he may have even done a fundraiser or maybe not. You take a bat or a sledgehammer and go crazy on this car. At like, with the printer, but the car it was bigger, so more people could participate. And then at the end of finals week, they paid to have it towed back to the junkyard.

Christi Dodge  20:54  

It’s almost like they were the predecessors of these like places you can go to get your

Mike Dodge  21:00  

Right those rooms exactly is maybe it was a former West dormer. No, I think about it. I think Mike parrot is probably the guy behind that theory. I think I know the guy.

Christi Dodge  21:11  

Oh, so is there anything else?

Mike Dodge  21:13  

So as far as sets go, I will mention I’ve heard a couple of different things about this red Swingline. For years, I’d heard they didn’t exist. And then the trivia for IMDb, which is notoriously not fact checked, I have the fact. They said that they did make them had stopped making them and resumed. I don’t know about that.

Christi Dodge  21:33  

Kind of right. So Stephen Root on the Rich Eisen show, said, Mike Judge approach Swingline. And so we please make me four red ones for the film. And they were like, No, we don’t we don’t do that. Nobody would buy a red one. They want things to blend in. So they would want black and gray. And so the props department made for red swing lines, took the swing lines, painted them. And then and then this is what I love. Like then they had to re add that is my favorite part. White swing. Like I want to talk to the Hershey. Yes. Yeah. So there were four one was burnt up for the fire. Yeah. One Mike Judge took and one Stephen Root has.

Mike Dodge  22:19  

Okay. So there’s one cell remaining at large, right? Well, I have a red Swingline.

Christi Dodge  22:24  

And then then people kept contacting Swingline for the red ones. And they were like, look, we don’t make them. People started painting them themselves and selling them on eBay and making tons of money on them with a crappy product. Right? And so Swingline was like, okay, and then they started making them.

Yeah, so I’ve had one for years. And back when I had like an office, I would put it on my desk, and it was a huge fan or huge drop people loved people either.

Love it. It’s an iconic piece of right. Like I hope I hope the fourth one’s in the Smithsonian. Like that’s really where it should be in that, you know, they have that. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Right. That’s where that fourth one needs. 

Mike Dodge  23:06  

So there’s a in the conference room where the Bob’s interview people for their job. There’s a picture on the wall behind the person being interviewed. And it’s like a picture of an exterior of a building. Which again, I’m not sure why you would need a picture of your own building in your building. But there you go. What’s eerie about that is, that’s a place I think I work 2000 You really couldn’t tell the difference in that. Right. Right. But the Bobs are great, too. 

They are because I think the Bob’s capture, again, the people that come in and lay people off. Right? And so there’s this great, you know, thing where the richer real character is yelling, I have people skills, but then I think it’s just not just comic, I do actually think this could happen when Peter basically no longer cares, that they’re like, Oh, he’s got management, cheerio. See, he’s bored with your stupid. And so he says, It’s not that I’m lazy. 

Christi Dodge  24:06  

I don’t care. One of your favorite lines. Oh, there’s so many in this film. Pete Oh, yeah. And then, Peter, you’ve been missing a lot of work lately.

Mike Dodge  24:16  

I wouldn’t say been missing it, Bob. And that’s a great because inside certain eras, right generations in the software industry, you can just say, I wouldn’t say been missing it. And everybody knows what you’re what you’re talking about. So there’s also what would you say you do here? Yeah, it’s, it’s great. And I love that. I don’t like my job. And I don’t think I’m going to go anymore. Man who has not had that feeling right. So yeah, this is this film entirely captures what I hope is a narrow window in history, where this kind of torture was coming. considered reasonable?

Christi Dodge  25:02  

It was in the film that I think Peter says humans are not meant to live in cubicles and stare at computers all day.

Mike Dodge  25:11  

I not not to make fun of people who are POWs in World War Two. But to me, this is like Hogan’s Heroes. But for office space, it’s making fun of what is really quite a miserable existence. And so we have all these funny characters. But underneath it all there is this, like authenticity where Judge kind of just hits the right perfect note, for people, of course, you who’ve been through that, right. And that might be a fairly narrow niche. I don’t know. Maybe not everyone resonates with that. Because we were talking about this recently in a situation and somebody said to you, oh, well, it’s just like, you know, every normal corporate annual performance review, and you were delightfully well, to say, I don’t know, I’ve never done one of those. So jealous.

 So maybe there are people out there for like, it’s a funny movie, but I don’t quite get it. Yeah. But there’s, I think a whole segment of people, even if you don’t work in software, I think anybody that works in a cubicle gets that film. 

Christi Dodge  26:10  

But in a way, that’s the brilliance of Mike Judge in this film, because not maybe not everybody worked in a cubicle. But then he puts in Jennifer Aniston’s character, who is basically dealing with the same soul sucking. Yeah, no, yeah, kind of in a in a service registry, where her boss is kind of doing similar oppressive kind of things to her. And so I believe that that’s why this film is so well loved. Because either you’re in an office, or you’re in a service industry, and or anybody has had was trying to think really quick. I don’t think I’ve had a douchey boss, but many people have had douchey bosses. And, and so I think that’s why this film, right? So Beloved.

Mike Dodge  26:59  

And then there’s the Orlando Jones character, the guy who’s selling magazines, and how he can make more money selling magazines printing to be a disadvantaged young black man. Yeah, then he can it as other job. Cheese. Yeah, it’s just it really is priceless. Yeah. And I suspect after the last three years, there are people who find this even more poignant, given how little they’re probably making to go to some stupid job in a cubicle, and then, you know, through no choice of their own. They’re suddenly like Peter, where they’re outside shoveling up wreckage of something with a square shovel. And they realize, Wow, this isn’t so bad after all.

Christi Dodge  27:42  

Right? And his friends come by, and they’re like, Hey, we can get you a job at wherever they’re now wearing trode awesome name. And he’s like, No, I’m good. So even Yeah, so what is the major of, of how you want to spend the time that you have to spend to make money, right, you’re going live.

Mike Dodge  28:01  

So Peter says, line of dialogue. So I sit in my cubicle today. And I realized ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it out. And I don’t think most people can say every day is worse than the day before it. But I think if I’m running a business, and my employees have that feeling, I feel like I’m failing. Totally, totally. Yeah. But I don’t think Lumbergh cares.

Christi Dodge  28:33  

Nope, nope. So was there any head trauma in this film?

Mike Dodge  28:38  

No head trauma that I noticed. Although there should have been I’m telling you Lumbergh really deserves it.

Christi Dodge  28:43  

Yes, I have it a Smooch smoochy smoochy smoochy.

Mike Dodge  28:47  

So I didn’t make a note of a smoochy between Jennifer Aniston, Ron Livingston, but she stays over so we know that they’re intimate. There’s an implication but I didn’t make a note of non screen smooth. They mostly actually fight a lot.

Christi Dodge  29:06  

Well, at first,

Mike Dodge  29:07  

I’m sure I’m sure there is one I just didn’t notice. 

Christi Dodge  29:10  

How about a driver?

Mike Dodge  29:12  

So this is one of the things we talked about with superfan Lisa is the use of cars to talk about the characters much like costuming and sets right so Peters tan 96 Toyota Corolla says bland boring I’m killing time till death. Right is a perfect car sorry tour, but at that era, your cars were not very sexy.

Christi Dodge  29:34  

Well, the the lower end models.

Mike Dodge  29:39  

Michael Bolton instead drives this 97 Pontiac Grand Prix, which is very much a Midwest old man car, which is to set up how it’s hilarious that he’s listening to gangsta rap. Right. It’s just part of the joke. Right. And then Samir drives and 87 Pontiac Firebird formula, which shows he really, really well To pick up chicks. And as we have determined empirically, hot rods are not as effective as one might think it that Lumbergh drives an ad to Porsche 911. So, at the time this film was made that cars what 17 years old is, I mean, it’s fairly old. So that part, I mean, I don’t know if the average person would have clocked the year, but the portion of the big tire shows that he’s like doing very, very well financially. Right, he makes much more money and he can park right up front.

He doesn’t have to park across the moat in the in the overflow lot. And then wow, I did not remember the stunt they did for this. Tom gets all the money to make his jump to conclusions, Matt, because he gets T boned backing out of his garage after trying to kill himself. And the 96 Ford Taurus must have had incredible crash test ratings. If he walked away from I mean, he did get some broken bones. I don’t remember I was so startled. It was amazing. Also very dark that that at least one of the characters tries to kill himself because of his job. So yeah, very dark, very dark.

Christi Dodge  31:10  

Okay, so we go to the numbers, let’s go to the numbers. This film costs $10 million. It made 10 point 8 million domestically. So initially, it did not get the marketing probably behind it in order to make that up. Now, and or make that up back then. But it’s become a cult classic. And so it’s made a lot more it made 1.3 internationally. So 12 million altogether worldwide. And adjusted for today, the domestic would have been like 19 and a half million now. So I’d love to know what it’s made as of today. Because between stream I mean, I don’t know how much money they have the the studio’s make off of streaming. 

Mike Dodge  32:01  

It’s my understanding that it’s like a lump fee. So they say okay, you can have office space for a year for this much money.

Christi Dodge  32:08  

So it has to be making more now almost because it’s become a cult classic. And I would think it’s one of those movies like I could maybe not now that you know it kind of bummed you out. But before we watched it for the podcast, I feel like if you were flipping the channels, it’s one that maybe you would stay on.

Mike Dodge  32:27  

I have watched it in the last five years separate from podcast viewing.

Christi Dodge  32:31  

So it gets a 7.6 out of 10 on IMDb critics gave it 80% audiences gave it 93. So a big audience favorite. It’s an hour and a half long. It’s rated R It’s obviously a comedy. The studio if I didn’t say it before is 20 Century Fox, and Mike Judge won the star of Texas at the Texas film Hall of Fame. We watched it on max. So right now, at least as of this airing, you can watch it for free if you have a subscription to max. I just want to say one last thing that I was going to talk about when we talked about costumes. Aniston shows up to a party that Peter takes her to, or Joanna shows up in a bucket hat. 

And nowadays when I see someone in bucket hat because of my kids, I think of Brad Pitt, and I was like, Oh, is this when they were dating? And sure enough, they began dating in 98. He proposed in 99. And they were married in 2000. So I’m wondering if they if Brad happened to be on set was wearing his bucket hat and the customer said can I borrow that?

Mike Dodge  33:38  

So was she eating a burrito in every scene? I don’t believe are that’s where the connection you mentioned Jennifer Aniston and costuming. And I do wonder if the costume department had a great time sourcing all those buttons are was just irritated and having to find 1000 But I loved it. I think they did.

Christi Dodge  34:01  

 I think they loved it. Alright, everybody that kicks off our month I almost gave away the theme but I’m gonna leave that to you all. Look at our social media for the for films. If you want to be part of our newsletter, and on the first of every month, you will get the list of the four films we’ll be talking about. Send me an email that’s in the show notes and I will put you on our email list and you will be getting those newsletters and you’ll get your first crack. One of our listeners Elizabeth who won she guesses almost five minutes after the newsletter comes out.

Mike Dodge  34:36  

Wow, that’s a savvy strategic maneuver. tries to get in early.

Christi Dodge  34:40  

Yeah. So let me know if you want that. But never forget

Mike Dodge  34:43  

Dodges never stop and neither to the movies.

Brennan  34:46  

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