Brennan  0:00  

You’re listening to Dodge Movie Podcast. Your hosts are Christi and Mike Dodge the founders of Dodge Media Productions. We produce films and podcasts. So this is a podcast about films. Join them as they share their passion for filmmaking.

Christi Dodge  0:17  

Welcome back, everybody to the Dodge Movie Podcast. This is episode 129. And we are so excited to be joined by the crew from The Reshoot Podcast. We are joined by Ruthie, Hector and Eduardo. And have you ever seen a movie and felt like it was missing something? Well, they do and on the Reshoot podcast, join them as they take movies they enjoy and some they don’t and fix them up a little. They’ve been podcasting for three years and they have quite a catalogue. I encourage everyone to go over to your favorite podcast platform and check out the reshoot podcast. Welcome, guys.

Ruthie  0:56  

Thanks for having us. found us. Thank you.

Christi Dodge  0:57  

So we are going to be talking about the 1982 Blade Runner directed by Ridley Scott who also brought us Thelma and Louise, The Gladiator and the Martian in 2015. It stars Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young, Edward James Olmos, Daryl Hannah, Brian James, Joanna Cassidy and James Hong. The DP is Jordan Chenoweth. I wonder if any relation don’t know, alter that he brought us altered states in 1980 and Peggy Sue Got Married in 86. It was filmed largely in Los Angeles and a little bit in England. The writer is Hampton Fancher, I think and he also did the Blade Runner of Blade Runner 2049. The David Webb is credited as writer who did Unforgiven in 92 and 12 monkeys in 95. 

Philip K Dick is also credited as writer and he brought us Minority Report into those into and Total Recall in 1990. The synopsis for this film is a Blade Runner must pursue and terminate for replicants who stole a ship in space and have returned to Earth to find their Creator to taglines man has made his match. Now it’s his problem. Not bad. And a chilling bold mesmerizing futuristic detective thriller pretty much just kind of describes it. It’s a little much

Hector  2:30  

Weirdly enough sounds generic for such a wild. 

Ruthie  2:33  

That just like I don’t know, there’s so much there. It’s almost a nothing burger.

Christi Dodge  2:39  

And a little bit of research I did really Scott said that this he regards this movie as probably his most personal and his most complete movie. So Mike, why don’t you kick us off with the pickup line? And then we’ll dive into some cinematography and writing come in. That’s it. That’s it.

Mike Dodge  2:54  

Holden says that to one of the replicants come in. Yeah, doesn’t hold up my theory.

Christi Dodge  2:59  

What did you like about the cinematography of this film?

Eduardo  3:02  

The cinematography in this movie is something that I don’t think anything really comes close other than the sequel, obviously, with just, it’s, it’s dark, but it’s vibrant. The lighting is almost always perfect. In my opinion, especially like, it seems practical because there’s there’s like the, the reflections on the characters faces like it makes sense with their surroundings. So there isn’t a lot of green screen or it’s an 80s movie, but still like, that’s the thing that didn’t even live did with the new dune movie, he puts sand screen so that the reflections be the color of the sand. I also love that the cinematographer takes his time with each shot and each transition and holds stills and static shots for a little bit longer than you would expect. But it never feels like it’s out of place or without intention. 

There’s always something about it either to take in the scenery to be more immersed in the world, or to just see what the life kind of is like for the people down at the very bottom. Especially those tracking shots. And when he’s talking to Zuora you can get a lot of people just walking around and living their life and all of that. It’s yeah, one one of it is my probably second favorite film ever. So there’s a lot I love about this movie.

Mike Dodge  4:31  

So they did a thing where they put this light in the replicants eyes. And they also did it with the owl. And so my question was, how did they get the owl to hold still?

Ruthie  4:42  

They asked very nicely,

Eduardo  4:44  

I think. Okay, I don’t know how they got the owl to hold still. But I do have that kind of reflective pupil either way. So if they just had the right light and the right angle, it’ll show up.

Mike Dodge  4:54  

Angle a mouse behind the camera op.

Eduardo  4:57  

That could work. Yeah,

Christi Dodge  4:59  

how about you Hector? 

Hector  5:00  

Oh, man, I’m gonna sound like such a, like amateur compared to Ed here. I just like the grimyness of the like the way it looks like I like it when films look grimy. I. Most movies now are not sound too hipster or like sometimes too clean. Everything’s too pristine and too nice. So it’s kind of see everything just kind of get dirty and grimy and just kind of like gross. It’s fun.

Christi Dodge  5:28  

How about you Ruthie?

Ruthie  5:29  

It’s funny. Maybe I’m wrong. But didn’t Ridley Scott direct Alien? 

Eduardo  5:35  

Yes. 

Ruthie  5:36  

So Alien is my favorite one of his movies. And this one. I don’t think it is one of my favorite favorites. But it did like just remind me of why I like Alien so much. And it’s kind of like what Ed was saying this kind of sense that you’re not looking at all that this world has to offer. This is only a fraction of it. Like people live here. Like looking at alien. You’re only seeing like a truck, like a space truck. You’re only seeing the Nostromo you’re not seeing the rest of the world. But you feel like you’re seeing the whole world just through the way that the Nostromo the crew kind of interact with each other. 

It’s funny because like, as I’m watching this, I’ve seen it twice now. But so much of the media I really enjoy has been inspired by Blade Runner, like Hector, and I’ve played cyberpunk 2070s Put it 2077 You can see the inspiration in Cowboy Bebop which came out 98 The year I was born with some other ones.

Hector  6:31  

Now I can’t remember any. 

Eduardo  6:34  

I just started playing Cyberpunk 2077. And I definitely see it especially being down with the right at the street level. Yeah.

Christi Dodge  6:43  

It’s your classic Noir. The harsh shadows, like most of the time, half of his face is dark and half is well lit. Because it’s got the one light source that even there was a scene I can’t remember a couple times it happens. He walks in and the light is coming through many blinds. And so he’s got the lines across his face that are created from the shadow. It’s raining, which is hilarious that it takes place largely in LA but it’s raining almost throughout the whole movie. So it just it’s a classic noir, the fog machines. I think you you mentioned there…

Mike Dodge  7:15  

There’s a Dane that comes in like, yeah, Roger Deakins, who said that you’ll never see a film in Hollywood where it’s raining and it’s daytime. And the reason is because you can’t see the rain. It’s kind of waste is so a film like this, which is dark to begin with is perfect for that. And that’s kind of like Ruthie said it established a genre, right? The time cyberpunk was huge in science fiction in the early 80s. And I think this and probably, like William Gibson’s Johnny Nemonic series are the two things that really cemented what what was considered the aesthetic of cyberpunk. 

Ruthie  7:52  

Yeah, it’s kind of this retro futurism. Right. Yeah. very iconic. 

Hector  7:58  

Everything’s analog instead of digital it that I think that just making everything analog kind of, is like the secret to for the feel of it. Because as soon as you start digital and touchscreens, you lose it, it has to always be analog.

Eduardo  8:11  

That’s why that’s the one thing I haven’t liked about Cyberpunk 2077. Right now we went digital, that there’s a lot of digital stuff, especially the calling since it’s just like, over the eyelids kind of stuff. But I do like the little like shit chips they put in there.

Hector  8:24  

It gets more analog as you keep going. But they had to digitize it somewhat yeah.

Christi Dodge  8:29  

I thought it was funny when so the film came out in 1982. The opening title card is LA in 2019. And for them this was so futuristic. For us it was four years ago and life was a little maybe easier.

Ruthie  8:46  

In defense since we were talking about the LA rain. This year, there was this huge deluge of rain for like two weeks. So maybe cyberpunk. It was just like, or

Eduardo  8:56  

It has the El Nino that year I guess was not there. So they so the rain? What? 

Hector  9:02  

Also hasn’t the world gone? Like really bad? Because, like, environmental issues in that movie, you know the lore? 

Eduardo  9:10  

Yes. 

Hector  9:11  

So that would explain the rain and probably just messed up the weather cycle

Eduardo  9:16  

LA and it’s shown more in the sequel is kind of like, encircled by a wall. And there isn’t that many cities really like I think the entire Midwest of the US is just nuclear wasteland, because I think there were a lot of nuclear wars as well. 

Mike Dodge  9:33  

Well, I have to say it’s not entirely analog because this had the first recorded use that I remember of zoom and enhance, and they use Siri to do it. So it’s kind of this mishmash, he has a lot of zoom would enhance and I’ll be honest, I have no clue what he’s saying how that maps to. He just calls out numbers and it does things

Eduardo  9:53  

it’s probably coordinates. 

Hector  9:54  

Yeah, I thought was like a grid. So it’s like, you know, a is like the x axis y is numbers are the y axis on it’s like g 17. That’s my diet.

Eduardo  10:05  

If I’m remembering correctly, he says two numbers. You might just say XY axis like numbers. Yeah. And yeah, when he when he says, like, go into this, it shows grid and then it shows goes into kind of thing. I haven’t really like taking the time to see if it kind of matches. If there’s like a kind of

Mike Dodge  10:23  

That is where I was saying I didn’t take the time to try to decrypt it. 

Eduardo  10:28  

Now I want to, I’ll probably do that. 

Mike Dodge  10:30  

Well, I don’t know how to how to sort these out. Right. 

Christi Dodge  10:34  

Well, okay, let’s ask. I saw on the trivia that there was a lot of debate on whether Harrison Ford is a replicant or not. I’ve also seen an interview where Ridley says quite clearly so taking a poll of the room, what is all of your opinions? If Harrison Ford’s character, Deckard is a replicant? 

Hector  10:55  

Oh, you’re gonna have a fight on air here. I am the strongest proponent of the group of Deckard is a replicant through and through there’s so much foreshadowing there. So many, so many hands, like the eye, the unicorn dream, then there’s the and then his partner always does, like animals. Remember, he’s at a replicants place. So and specifically unicorn. And like, why would that be such a memory? That’s such a weird memory to have. Right? So exactly. 

Christi Dodge  11:30  

It couldn’t really be a memory he had

Eduardo  11:33  

A vision. 

Hector  11:35  

Also, Tyrell he was saying, I think there’s a better foreshadowing because there’s a scene where he’s asking him of how long it takes for replicant to catch up again. But if this replicant, it beggars replicant then he’s just saying, oh, did you catch that you’re a replicant too, but because he’s really coy about it outside of Rachel. 

Eduardo  12:04  

Rachel even asked him Have you ever taken the test herself?

Christi Dodge  12:06  

So who’s your opponent? Is it Eduardo or Ruthie?

Eduardo  12:10  

okay, it’s you’re gonna say me, but I’ve changed my mind.

Ruthie  12:17  

Yeah, I agree with Hector. He kind of he has like the all the officials. I’m just going off a vibe, the vibe is he he’s so detached.

Christi Dodge  12:29  

So you switched over? I changed your mind.

Eduardo  12:34  

Originally, I didn’t think he was a replicant. I also, like I changed my mind but not to that he’s a replicant my not the question. I don’t think it matters if he is or isn’t. In that’s like a lot of what the film is like what it means to be human. Does he feel human to you? Does he act human in any way? He does. And I don’t like yes, there’s a lot of hints saying to it, Ridley Scott said he’s a replicant.

I don’t care what Scott says though. I honestly don’t think it’s even like a thing that should be argued because it’s not. It’s not something. It doesn’t matter if he is a replicant. Or if he’s not, it just matters. If he’s human enough, basically, if he feels human, because, I mean, what what does it mean to be human? 

That’s like, the biggest thing in the film.

Christi Dodge  13:31  

That’s a really good point, because the reason that he stepped away from being a cop or detective is because he didn’t want to keep killing replicants anymore, in which that I would associate more with a human emotion than a replicant emotion because they just they were given a task and they would carry it out. So that’s a good point Eduardo.

Eduardo  13:55  

Speaking of that, that Deckard doesn’t want to kill, kill or keep killing replicants I also watched the sequel after this and it’s a nice little thing where Kay in the beginning, he’s asked by sapper, a few, how does it feel clean your own kind? And he just responds, I don’t kill my own kind. My kind don’t run. So I don’t know. I feel it’s a very telling that Kay is more replicant than Deckard. 

Ruthie  14:23  

Yeah, another reason that I think that Deckard is a replicant is Ridley Scott is such a director where he doesn’t like to leave anything ambiguous, like even the start of this movie. It’s like, here’s a philosophical debate on what makes a person I’m going to immediately tell you what I think makes a person a human being, you could have your opinion, it might be wrong. Here’s mine. It’s right.

Eduardo  14:47  

But it’s his opinion. 

Ruthie  14:49  

Oh, yeah. No, of course, but he’s like, here, you can have this discussion. This is my answer. This is the right answer. You can have your opinion though. It’s a treat.

Hector  14:59  

Yeah, I feel like we’re We’re very close to a death of an author, debate here, which is I don’t think we have the time for 

Eduardo  15:04  

The death of an author?

Hector  15:08  

You need me to explain what Yeah, so with a lot of stories, especially now more modern, since there’s this whole, like fans, you know, with stories not having like a built in big fan bases that love to dissect media,

Ruthie  15:23  

I’m looking at you Star Wars.

Hector  15:25  

Oh, don’t start there, but there is a point where you can where it’s like, at what point does the author’s work or his belief in the story become true? And at what point does it make more sense sometimes when like, an audience member fixes like a plot hole or like when someone who’s a fan kind of like has a better interpretation and even the author, right, like, at what point is the author say, so? Are the author’s authority over the story? Stay, if that makes sense?

Eduardo  15:56  

Hmm, that’s interesting. 

Christi Dodge  15:58  

Well, I mentioned there, there were three people listed for writer. So I wonder did one habit for a certain amount of time and they were polishing? Or were they collaborative?

Eduardo  16:09  

I think was how tight? The story is that it was collaborative. And I think Philip K Dick was in it just to kind of, cuz it’s not like the book at all. It’s very different. Deckard in the book has a wife.

Christi Dodge  16:27  

Did you say a life or a wife? 

Eduardo  16:29  

Wife

Christi Dodge  16:30  

Okay. 

Eduardo  16:30  

Yeah. Wife. 

Christi Dodge  16:32  

So is there the sexual tension between Deckard?

Eduardo  16:35  

I haven’t read the book, I just read like a little bit of like, just differences kind of stuff.

Ruthie  16:41  

We brushed up on the wiki page?

Eduardo  16:42  

A little bit. Basically, I just I’m starting to read more now that Reddit is dead. But you know, it’s I think Philip K. Dick was there. Obviously, he helped write it and probably made it more are kind of guided them and like, how he would change his story if it was a film. Because a lot of books can’t be really well made into films and stuff like that. But with how tight the script and the story is, and everything. I think it was definitely collaborative writing.

Mike Dodge  17:15  

If I remember correctly, Philip K Dix writings were pretty bonkers. They didn’t make a lot of sense. I went through a phase where I tried to read his stuff, right around then. And I seem to remember there was very little mapping from the book to the movie.

Eduardo  17:30  

Like the only thing they really borrowed was Deckard as a character and the replicants.

Mike Dodge  17:35  

Yeah, the premise. 

Christi Dodge  17:37  

How about the sets? What did you guys think of? Like even the exterior shots of like all the buildings, but then even the interior? 

Eduardo  17:45  

The miniatures are so good.

Mike Dodge  17:48  

Yeah. The exteriors I thought, were fantastic for the era. It was really quite good.

Eduardo  17:53  

It was a lot of miniatures. The Tyrell Corp, pyramid tower thing was all miniature. There was others that can’t remember quite which ones but very, very few CGI shots.

Mike Dodge  18:07  

Assume they did the hover cars as miniatures as well. 

Eduardo  18:11  

Yes. Some of it was like superimposed kind of stuff. So kind of CGI, but not really.

Ruthie  18:18  

And the bit with what’s his Roy and Sebastian on the elevator? I think that was that same miniature style, too. 

Mike Dodge  18:20  

And speaking of sets, though, that Bradbury hotel is like a real landmark in LA, I think. So my question was, how did they? I mean, obviously could but just to measure the effort of set dressing it to look derelict and wet. So thinking, how do they dump all the water in there? 

Eduardo  18:49  

I think that was it a set? I don’t think that was the Bradbury.

Christi Dodge  18:53  

I’ll just read this little bit of trivia that I found Sid Mead was originally hired to design vehicles and props. However, his sketches that in his sketches, included backgrounds for contextualise, such as the streets and decorates apartment, Ridley Scott was so impressed with his work that he asked him to work on designing the environment for that of this movie, as well as painting some of the mats Mead, who was originally supposed to be hired for only a few days, staying on the production for several weeks, at a fee of $1,500 per day. This is probably one of the factors that cause the movie to go over budget.

Ruthie  19:30  

Goals. 

Mike Dodge  19:31  

And I thought it was interesting that in Tourelles bedroom, he had all the candles around because you would never do that in your bedroom. Because if you want to then go to sleep, you get tired. You have to stand up and spend 10 minutes blowing things out or you just go to sleep and you die when everything catches fire.

Eduardo  19:51  

Or he could just call in one of his replicant servants.

Mike Dodge  19:56  

Maybe he had a replicant elephant and he just (elephant trumpet sound).

Ruthie  20:02  

I think there’s another care another movie with a very similar vibe to Tyrell Prometheus, which was also directed by Ridley Scott. I think the scenes with the father figure who owned the corporation to Wayland he also had a bedroom that was like that I think that’s really Scott trying to say like this guy’s got a god complex he’s got a huge ego he’s got the ego bedroom.

Eduardo  20:28  

And Tyrell definitely does have a god complex a god complex and then I forget littles character and 2049 He’s trying to get to that god complex.

Mike Dodge  20:41  

or Ridley Scott has a lot of shares the Yankee Candle.

Hector  20:47  

I thought you were about to imply that Ridley Scott has a god complex which with this philosophy will not surprise me. 

Ruthie  20:53  

Yeah, he’s like, What do you mean this is just my bedroom? Candle

Eduardo  20:59  

Oh, yeah, this is a tiny rose bedroom. This is actually my bedroom. I just decided to use it as a set. 

Christi Dodge  21:04  

Save a little because they were over budget. I loved the costumes. They’re really seemed more like kind of modern day there wasn’t really anything extravagant except for a Shawn Young’s characters, Rachel had that you know that? High collar, very Queen of Hearts.

Ruthie  21:27  

Crazy beautiful eyeliner. Like the wings on the eyeliner.

Mike Dodge  21:32  

Oh, and the Flock of Seagulls hairdo? Yeah.

Christi Dodge  21:37  

Very 80s

Hector  21:39  

Does Decker’s gun count as part of the costume? Because I thought that was really cool design.

Eduardo  21:46  

The double the two triggers. You don’t even know why it has two triggers. But hey,

Ruthie  21:51  

Why not add a third trigger?

Mike Dodge  21:53  

This is America. Let’s go to 11. Has Adam Savage built one of those? 

Christi Dodge  22:00  

I would bet he did.

Eduardo  22:02  

I think so. Yeah, I would think yes. But I do want to bring up what the costumes like it’s very Yeah, it’s very like modern kind of stuff. But one of the biggest things that is even in the game Cyberpunk is just like these really big bulky jackets. Right? Because a lot of the street kids especially near the hotel where Sebastian lives, they had these really big bulky jackets that made no sense. It was a little cold I guess. But like still like decades duster was I think that’s just like a you know, westerns and stuff kind of thing.

Christi Dodge  22:37  

Detective like the long raincoat? Well, yeah.

Mike Dodge  22:41  

With all the rain. You didn’t need a raincoat. But yeah, it does look more like a duster than a traditional raincoat.

Eduardo  22:46  

Yes,

Christi Dodge  22:47  

We have that good 80s synthesizer to let us know when this film was made. Not necessarily when it was projected to be.

Eduardo  22:55  

Oh, the score is so good. 

Hector  22:55  

The score is really good. 

Eduardo  22:56  

It really sets up like the feel of what it is like to live in the far future. 2019 Los Angeles. Yeah, it just it just makes it so like moody and bleak. Even I don’t know how the synthesizer makes it sound bleak, but it does. For me, at least.

Hector  23:19  

I think it’s a lower pitch, but don’t quote me on that. 

Eduardo  23:22  

It is much lower than you would usually hear a synthesizer and that is true. 

Christi Dodge  23:28  

I like that you guys liked it. Because to me, it really, it dated it for me, it pushed me more in the 1980s in the past, then in what is supposed to be the future.

Ruthie  23:41  

For me, it kind of just fits in with that retro futurism. Like I was talking about earlier. Where like, Yeah, this is the future they can use a synthesizer they can make it kind of sad and moody and dark and Noir.

Eduardo  23:53  

Yeah, it’s, it’s kind of I understand that like, usually like movies that are dated, can be can feel bad. Like, because I think that’s one of the reasons I don’t really watch a lot of like, classic, old older films is because they feel very dated. And the acting also is very dated kind of stuff. But when it when it comes to like, at least a cyberpunk feel of stuff. I don’t feel I feel like that’s so like, consistent and so structured. Now that with Blade Runner, it doesn’t feel like it’s dated other than like, you know, the quality of the camera or just the certain pacings is the only thing that I for me feels like it is an older film. Yeah.

Hector  24:47  

If I can add to the wire doesn’t feel dated. There’s been a bit of a one synth wave resurgence and to a cyberpunk resurgence, and I think that’s for us. That’s maybe why it doesn’t feel lovely I think by this point because of Blade Runner just setting the tone of synths and dark futures now it’s just kind of like the default for a lot of media.

Eduardo  25:13  

Speaking speaking of like, that, like it was really jarring playing cyberpunk and having like rap music playing That makes

Hector  25:22  

That makes sense with some cons but they also play a lot of since later.

Eduardo  25:25  

I just say like the very beginning it’s just like this doesn’t fit the vibe.

Christi Dodge  25:34  

All right, is there any head trauma in Blade Runner?

Mike Dodge  25:36  

There’s a fair amount of head trauma. So first off Zara crashes through the glass pane, I’m going to count that Lee and slammed Deckard into multiple vehicles and beats on his head had drama. Rachel shoots Leon in the head. That’s pretty traumatic. Roy crushes Tourelles head. And lastly, press squeezes and slaps deck cards head. So there’s quite a bit of head drama here.

Christi Dodge  25:59  

Is there a Deckert and Rachel smooch?

Mike Dodge  26:02  

 smoochy smoochy smoochy

Well, yes, there is. We’re going to talk a little bit about that. So far. smoochies he gives her kiss on the cheek and then her lips Roy and press attack each other’s mouths. It was not really sexy. It was more carnivorous.

Roy kisses Terrell before he kills him. Okay. Then Roy kisses the corpse press, which is again a little off putting. Lastly, Deckard also kisses Rachel, after returning to his apartment at the end of the film, but the asterisk here is Deckard kisses Rachel after he makes her say, kiss me, and I want you. And consent. This force is not consent. Yeah, just saying.

Eduardo  26:51  

Coercion is not consent. Which, that’s like, one of the things in the film that yeah, problematic now, because I think you brought this up, I’m sorry. But like back in the day. Like these these like, cool detectives and like, with like, Touch of Evil and stuff, like they just like kinda, they didn’t really force themselves on women, but they were very adamant about it. And like the woman didn’t really have a say, but in those that made it seem more consenting.

Ruthie  27:27  

We recently were did Howard the Duck on our podcast with smash trivia? And that was something that we kind of touched on where like, there’s a scene where Howard and the female lead, they’re getting having a little bit of fun, and he’s like, there’s a moment where he’s like, Yeah, I’m moving to it. No, I’m not into it anymore. I’m not into it anymore. Ah, you’re you’re a human. You’re, you’re a hairless ape. Ah, oh, but now back into it. 

Christi Dodge  27:51  

Rewatching some older movies. We kind of get a little squeamish, I think. Was it just recently was it mermaids? That yes. Is mermaid Yeah, that we were like, this isn’t okay. Yeah. That was an age difference. It was like a 15 year old with a 26 year old.

Eduardo  28:09  

So like, Han Solo and Leia. Leo’s 19 and Han and that is like almost 30.

Christi Dodge  28:17  

To bring it back to Harrison Ford.

Mike Dodge  28:20  

Again, wow, I didn’t know that Harrison Ford was so nonconsensual.

Christi Dodge  28:31  

Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones.

Hector  28:35  

She’s under she’s like legit under age when they when they first meet. Not in the movie. It’s time like a it’s not a word. It says agents. 

Eduardo  28:47  

Maybe another role for the casting directors, the people, the people.

Ruthie  28:52  

It’s Stephenie Meyer all over again.

Christi Dodge  28:57  

All right, how about a driving review?

Mike Dodge  28:59  

Not a whole lot of driving. We talked a little bit about the hover cars. They don’t actually exist even in 2019.

Ruthie  29:07  

Actually, now in the year 2023. The FAA like the federal airline administration, they just approved the first hover car for commercial use.

Mike Dodge  29:18  

And I want everyone in listening audience to think about putting the idiots you share the road with in an aircraft. Okay, anyway.

Ruthie  29:27  

It’s not Washington drivers.

Christi Dodge  29:31  

There goes our Washington fans.

Mike Dodge  29:34  

We love Jim Bavarian the new year. But I didn’t mention you said Christie whilst we were watching it. Is that a DeLorean? And I thought No, that’s impossible. The DeLorean wasn’t available yet. Not true. 82 the year this came out of the year the DeLorean Motor Company actually went out of business. So they would have been able to get a DeLorean quite cheap. So it’s possible they grabbed one and then just you know, put some bomb stuff on Net and made it but that was it not a lot of driving and this one.

Christi Dodge  30:04  

More flying.

Eduardo  30:09  

Autopilot that the cars have.

Christi Dodge  30:11  

So we go to the numbers let’s go to the numbers this movie suffered a little bit at the box office because open the same weekend as EA T and the thing so yeah can you imagine going up against et I remember going to the theater to watch et I didn’t even have a an idea of Blade Runner. Although I was 11.

Eduardo  30:32  

It’s good you didn’t see the theatrical version. But when I first watched Blade Runner, I got the version, that theatrical version and I watch it and I’m like, I don’t know why people think this is so good. And then later on, I read oh, you should you should watch the final cut. Because there’s like five versions of this movie.

Christi Dodge  30:51  

That’s what I was. Our son was talking about that. So we rented it on amazon prime.

Ruthie  30:58  

That’s the final cut.

Eduardo  31:01  

The only one I’ve ever seen. Yeah. Now nowadays, it’s pretty hard to find anything that is not the final cut. Yeah, but the theatrical version had narration by Harrison Ford, because it because the studio meddled and there’s like, they’re like, watch the original cause like what is this? Like? This is a normal view. Right? So he’s supposed to be narrating because that’s what they ignore. 

Christi Dodge  31:23  

That is Noir. Yeah, there is some of this in the beginning because I made note of it. 

Eduardo  31:28  

I just remember that. Studio told them to do that Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford did not like it. So Harrison Ford kind of hammed it up.

Christi Dodge  31:36  

Ah, so this film had a budget of $20 million. It made domestically 32 point 6 million adjusted for today. That would be like 96 point 6 million and worldwide it made just under 40 million. So did okay. I guess not tremendously. It gets a 8.1 out of 10 on IMDb. Critics give it 89% On Rotten Tomatoes, audiences love it a little bit more at 91% It’s just under two hours and an hour 57. It’s rated R and it’s listed as an action drama sci fi. It was done by the lad company Shaw Brothers and Warner Brothers. Blade Runner won some BAFTA is for cinematography, Best Costume Design and Production Design. The film had let’s see 10 Other wins and at with other festivals and about 19 other nominations. 

Eduardo  32:33  

They didn’t win an Oscar. It did not was it nominated. For an Oscar.

Christi Dodge  32:37  

It’s possible I just when there’s so many, I usually mark it not so much for nominations, although sometimes I don’t know. You’ll have to look that up everybody. 

Eduardo  32:48  

And it would make sense because the version that they were watching was the bad one.

Christi Dodge  32:54  

Was the original one that we were talking about.

Ruthie  32:56  

Wasn’t the end you were telling me that the original version was super green.

Eduardo  33:00  

Yeah, it was really green, too. But that’s weird, because like the director’s cut, which is not the final cut was also still a little green. I don’t know what Ridley Scott. I think that’s a one thing Ridley Scott wasn’t sure what he wanted. Like the grading, like the color.

Ruthie  33:18  

He was wearing very blue sunglass.

Christi Dodge  33:22  

Yeah. All right. Well, that should do it for our episode. Now. Please go over and listen to we are going to appear on the Reshoot podcast talking about Blade Runner. And so we it’s gonna be hard for Eduardo to do, but we’re going to talk about how we would make the film better. So thanks, guys, for coming on our podcast. We’re so happy to have you. And let’s see, this kicks off our month of August. And look at our social media for the other films we’ll be talking about. Guess what the theme is? I think you guys will get this one. It’s not as hard as June but easier or harder a little bit harder than July. But never forget.

Mike Dodge  34:03  

Never stop and neither do the movies.

Brennan  34:06  

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